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You define toxi masculinity in terms of "domination," which I think is a fair simple summary.

One aspect of toxic masculinity that I key into, unsurprisingly given that I grew up in a military familty, is the idea of masculine redemptive violence. You see it in action movies A LOT. The action hero kills a lot of people, but it's ok, because the violence is redeeming. "Redeeming" as in it has a salvific effect for one's masculinity--that one's masculinity, like salvation, is beyond reproach. To give an example outside of theatre, I suspect that this is at play in those cases where a property owner kills an intruder *as that person is running away and poses no threat*. There have been a number of cases near where I live like that, where after an initial investigation the Stand Your Ground laws are invoked. I've even had cases like that in my own extended family, where there this almost ... lust? ... to prove one's bona fides as a real man through threatening and possibly shooting a trespasser to save the homestead, the wife, and the family.

I invented (subconsciously picked up?) the term because of just how extreme the violence can get, and how aggressive the attitudes, both in theatre and in life. As if some men need to play these characters on the stage of life, to become the character.

I am ... ahem ... not trying to "dominate" discussion. Just passionate.

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OK, one more....

In the Mr. Mom post, might I suggest Incredibles 2 as a reference?

Also, want to blow minds? Look like a "normal" man ... and babywear in public.

I'd like to do a national sociological experiment with a group of men babywearing and recording of reactions in various regional cultures.

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